You can play word games all you want about which is the origin of which, but verifiability is required. ![]() Based on the online references, specifically a reference to the premier book reference (Jane's), CATIC and HAI have less than 1/4 share. You had also written into the article that all companies had an equal share in the project ( diff). This article from Eurocopter, clearly suggests that the HC 120 is a term intended solely for the Chinese aerospace market. The HC-120 is covered under Variants, but the inserting of HC-120 everywhere else in the article is disruptive and misleading. ![]() Only in China is it called the HC-120, so if the lead-in says Eurocopter Colibri, it doesn't mean "HC-120", it means EC 120, because that is the model number and name that Eurocopter has given it, and how it is marketed worldwide. The name of the helicopter is the EC 120 Colibri, everywhere in the world, except China, where it is produced as the HC-120. Akradecki 04:10, 17 April 2007 (UTC) Can you provide the sources to support EC-120 is derived from the other Eurocopter models?- Ksyrie 04:15, 17 April 2007 (UTC) Another issue that should be addressed, though, is the some of the text in the "development" section reads as if it was taken from a Eurocopter sales brochure, and is promoting the product rather than merely describing it in neutral terms. (Reposted on Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Aircraft and Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Aircraft/Rotorcraft task force) - Born2flie 03:42, 17 April 2007 (UTC) IT's clear that HC-120 is the chinese name for this helicopter and EC 120 is the name for Eurocopter made one.It's just this product have got two different names under two different companies.Some one can assert HC-120 is a variant of EC 120,and on the other hand,someone may assert EC 120 is a variant of HC-120.- Ksyrie 04:04, 17 April 2007 (UTC) It seems pretty clear to me that the EC-120 is derived from the other Eurocopter models, which would then make the HC-120 as the license-built variant. I believe that Ksyrie's edits serve only to mislead as to the nature of Harbin's involvement in the worldwide production of the EC 120 and attempts to simply give the HC-120 a treatment of greater importance in the article. The HC-120 is already listed as a Variant and CATIC and Harbin feature prominently in the lead-in proportional to their involvement. The nature of my dispute is that I feel Ksyrie has taken a less than neutral position on this article and is promoting a nationalistic or regionalistic viewpoint. The Australian Aerospace production line will provide EC 120 production for the rest of Asia and the Pacific rim, a fact which also seems to relegate production of the HC-120 for the internal Chineses aerospace market. ![]() I've provided verifiable sources that demonstrate that CATIC (via Harbin) has a subordinate role in the development of the aircraft and that the HC-120 will be a Chinese-assembled variant. Ksyrie believes that the alternate nomenclature for the Eurocopter Colibri is the HC-120.
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